I liken it to the argument some raise against Gun Control, any legislation, or in this case, TOS, or agreement at login, only affects those who would have followed the social norm in the first place. You and I think twice before posting something that was released to us in a semi-private way. Others do not/will not do so as they see it as their right and in some cases compulsion to post every small iota of data they encounter.

I do have to disagree with the notion Common Sense is missing in “youth”, unless by encapsulating it, you meant it to take on a meta meaning akin to experience or other measure of maturity. I have seen 18-20 year olds with an enormous collection of common sense and 50 year olds who don’t have the common sense to “get in out of the rain” as my mother used to say.

I do agree Privacy isn’t dead, but I wonder if it is not so fundamentally changed by today’s always on society, that we can no longer recognize it as the “privacy” we knew and maintained even just a decade ago. From Gvt. sponsored invasions of personal privacy to people posting break-up arguments on YouTube, it is a much different world today.

I do not want to leave the impression an Etiquette Manifesto is not needed and I would be happy to contribute, but I AM left to wonder if it will be any better than a band-aid on a gunshot wound. I guess we can only try.

The Etiquette conversation took a turn to Privacy, and when we returned to etiquette, we went right back to privacy issues. This was centered around the issue of people who were priveledged to a non-public (private?) exchange in-turn publicizing it. In essence, violating an agreement to privacy.

I’m for the Golden Rule and believe that those lacking the aforementioned Common Sense are for the most part, “youth”. I’m hopeful that “common” sense to me at age 44 is more greatly defined than at 24. I agree that playing is perfectly human. I’d agree that hypocrisy is also human, but I find it a flaw that fits the notion of not acknowledging that we do have play selves that are different from our work selves. In reviewing my experience of people that shun a personal life beyond a professional one:
1) I find that there are people who have a personal life but deny it, and
2)I find that there are people who don’t have a personal life other than making conversation about those that do (and I think they need to “get a life”).

Chronicling our perspectives and experiences has been going on for a long time. There’s a benefit to keeping a private journal that’s not related to views, comments, or link-backs. With more recent privacy options, we are able to stratify who sees what.

I didn’t walk away feeling the Etiquette Manifesto was to pass. I put the beginnings of a basic framework up on a wetpaint wiki.
Privacy is NOT DEAD. It’s redefined. Steve Rambum needs to get over it. The statement is akin to the guy talking about the shutters being up or down. It’s extremist headline building.

This discussion at BarCamp was a favorite of mine, and it was great to have such a variety of perspectives there. I’m continually fascinated by the cultural evolution enabled by “social” technologies and daily reminders that the Long Tail is flourishing. It’s fantastic!